x64 intel platform

I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86 DVD's in my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not a download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a dual boot system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade X64 XP and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old. The installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is restored and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install which I haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition with my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?
Intel D945PVS systemboard Intel Pentium D Dual Core ATI Radeon X1600 pro 2GB RAM 350 GB SATA drive
Thanks,
Jon

"Jon" wrote in message

I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86 DVD's in my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not a download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a dual boot system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade X64 XP and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old. The installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is restored and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install which I haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition with my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?
Intel D945PVS systemboard Intel Pentium D Dual Core ATI Radeon X1600 pro 2GB RAM 350 GB SATA drive
Thanks,
Jon

From what I have read, booting the X64 DVD is the only way to successfully install it. Back everything up!
Tom

Vista x64 can be installed from the XP Pro x64 desktop.
"Tom Scales" wrote in message

"Jon" wrote in message I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86 DVD's in my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not a download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a dual boot system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade X64 XP and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old. The installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is restored and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install which I haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition with my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?
Intel D945PVS systemboard Intel Pentium D Dual Core ATI Radeon X1600 pro 2GB RAM 350 GB SATA drive
Thanks,
Jon
From what I have read, booting the X64 DVD is the only way to successfully install it. Back everything up!
Tom

To Tom and Colin,
I am sorry but I lost this post. This newsgroup seems very hard to word with. Most of the time it says "there was a problem with your post and it was not posted" or sormething. I then look and it was??? I did find that booting from the x64 installation DVD worked much better than trying to install from a x64 or whatever insatllation of XP. My x64 XP didn't have any critical data so I should be OK. I now am battling the ATI Radeon X1600 driver issue. It appears that only certain ATI Radeon Xxxxxx cards are so far supported. I am so frustrated because I can get to the normal desktop if I first install the ATI Vista beta driver then uninstall it and let Windows do the PNP thing and install it's own driver. Once I do that I can work in normal mode even though it requests rebooting which I cancel. What I see and have access to is great but the manipulations I have to go through to get there are taxing to say the least. I thought maybe the scanner or printer (both of which a driver cannot be found) were the culprit. I disconnected the USB cables for both and no change. Now I am lost for an answer.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

Vista x64 can be installed from the XP Pro x64 desktop.
"Tom Scales" wrote in message
"Jon" wrote in message I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86 DVD's in my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not a download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a dual boot system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade X64 XP and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old. The installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is restored and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install which I haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition with my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?
Intel D945PVS systemboard Intel Pentium D Dual Core ATI Radeon X1600 pro 2GB RAM 350 GB SATA drive
Thanks,
Jon
From what I have read, booting the X64 DVD is the only way to successfully install it. Back everything up!
Tom

That's odd because ATI's Catalyst for Vista Beta 2 says it supports the x1600 and is available for both x86 and x64 builds. Surprised to hear it isn't working for you!
"Jon" wrote in message To Tom and Colin,
I am sorry but I lost this post. This newsgroup seems very hard to word with. Most of the time it says "there was a problem with your post and it was not posted" or sormething. I then look and it was??? I did find that booting from the x64 installation DVD worked much better than trying to install from a x64 or whatever insatllation of XP. My x64 XP didn't have any critical data so I should be OK. I now am battling the ATI Radeon X1600 driver issue. It appears that only certain ATI Radeon Xxxxxx cards are so far supported. I am so frustrated because I can get to the normal desktop if I first install the ATI Vista beta driver then uninstall it and let Windows do the PNP thing and install it's own driver. Once I do that I can work in normal mode even though it requests rebooting which I cancel. What I see and have access to is great but the manipulations I have to go through to get there are taxing to say the least. I thought maybe the scanner or printer (both of which a driver cannot be found) were the culprit. I disconnected the USB cables for both and no change. Now I am lost for an answer.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

Vista x64 can be installed from the XP Pro x64 desktop.
"Tom Scales" wrote in message
"Jon" wrote in message I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86 DVD's in my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not a download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a dual boot system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade X64 XP and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old. The installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is restored and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install which I haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition with my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?
Intel D945PVS systemboard Intel Pentium D Dual Core ATI Radeon X1600 pro 2GB RAM 350 GB SATA drive
Thanks,
Jon
From what I have read, booting the X64 DVD is the only way to successfully install it. Back everything up!
Tom

Hi, I added a K to my name because there is another Jon in here and it was getting me confused! I need to keep this clear, I am working with the x64 Ultimate 5384 build. My Radeon is a x1600 Pro PCI-express. I state that because there are different flavors and this is what I am trying to make work. I had a new idea in that each time I tried installing the ATI Vista beta driver for X64 I was in safe mode. I booted into normal mode by removing my Radeon and then rebooting and letting Vista do the PNP thing and install it. This gets me into a working normal mode and I cancel the reboot requested. I then (the new part) ran the ATI Vista beta for x64 at this point and definitely observe a difference from the safe mode installation. This takes a lot longer and Catalyst itself gets installed. I thought I had the solution, NO. When I rebooted I still get the BSOD which complains about a video timeout. Am I beating my head against a brick wall needlessly? Should I bag the x64 and go to the X86 32 bit? Given how little support has been given 64 bit XP driver wise is there any reason to think Vista will be different? Thanks for your support,
JonK
"Mark D. VandenBerg" wrote:

That's odd because ATI's Catalyst for Vista Beta 2 says it supports the x1600 and is available for both x86 and x64 builds. Surprised to hear it isn't working for you!
"Jon" wrote in message To Tom and Colin,
I am sorry but I lost this post. This newsgroup seems very hard to word with. Most of the time it says "there was a problem with your post and it was not posted" or sormething. I then look and it was??? I did find that booting from the x64 installation DVD worked much better than trying to install from a x64 or whatever insatllation of XP. My x64 XP didn't have any critical data so I should be OK. I now am battling the ATI Radeon X1600 driver issue. It appears that only certain ATI Radeon Xxxxxx cards are so far supported. I am so frustrated because I can get to the normal desktop if I first install the ATI Vista beta driver then uninstall it and let Windows do the PNP thing and install it's own driver. Once I do that I can work in normal mode even though it requests rebooting which I cancel. What I see and have access to is great but the manipulations I have to go through to get there are taxing to say the least. I thought maybe the scanner or printer (both of which a driver cannot be found) were the culprit. I disconnected the USB cables for both and no change. Now I am lost for an answer.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
Vista x64 can be installed from the XP Pro x64 desktop.
"Tom Scales" wrote in message
"Jon" wrote in message I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86 DVD's in my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not a download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a dual boot system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade X64 XP and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old. The installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is restored and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install which I haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition with my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?
Intel D945PVS systemboard Intel Pentium D Dual Core ATI Radeon X1600 pro 2GB RAM 350 GB SATA drive
Thanks,
Jon
From what I have read, booting the X64 DVD is the only way to successfully install it. Back everything up!
Tom

Update:
I decided to check out x86 and everything works great. I am able to add my printers, one of which is connected to a Linksys wireless print server. My scanner installed also with no problems. In each case I was able to use the original install disc for each device. I also note that in X86 your drives don't get messed with. I am on D: partition and it shows it as D: when I am in Vista. On x64 Vista insisted on making it C: which got scary as my real stuff is there. I wish I could get x64 working reliably, not needing to alternate between normal and safe modes to get back to normal mode because of a video driver problem.
JonK
"JonK" wrote:

Hi, I added a K to my name because there is another Jon in here and it was getting me confused! I need to keep this clear, I am working with the x64 Ultimate 5384 build. My Radeon is a x1600 Pro PCI-express. I state that because there are different flavors and this is what I am trying to make work. I had a new idea in that each time I tried installing the ATI Vista beta driver for X64 I was in safe mode. I booted into normal mode by removing my Radeon and then rebooting and letting Vista do the PNP thing and install it. This gets me into a working normal mode and I cancel the reboot requested. I then (the new part) ran the ATI Vista beta for x64 at this point and definitely observe a difference from the safe mode installation. This takes a lot longer and Catalyst itself gets installed. I thought I had the solution, NO. When I rebooted I still get the BSOD which complains about a video timeout. Am I beating my head against a brick wall needlessly? Should I bag the x64 and go to the X86 32 bit? Given how little support has been given 64 bit XP driver wise is there any reason to think Vista will be different? Thanks for your support,
JonK
"Mark D. VandenBerg" wrote:
That's odd because ATI's Catalyst for Vista Beta 2 says it supports the x1600 and is available for both x86 and x64 builds. Surprised to hear it isn't working for you!
"Jon" wrote in message To Tom and Colin,
I am sorry but I lost this post. This newsgroup seems very hard to word with. Most of the time it says "there was a problem with your post and it was not posted" or sormething. I then look and it was??? I did find that booting from the x64 installation DVD worked much better than trying to install from a x64 or whatever insatllation of XP. My x64 XP didn't have any critical data so I should be OK. I now am battling the ATI Radeon X1600 driver issue. It appears that only certain ATI Radeon Xxxxxx cards are so far supported. I am so frustrated because I can get to the normal desktop if I first install the ATI Vista beta driver then uninstall it and let Windows do the PNP thing and install it's own driver. Once I do that I can work in normal mode even though it requests rebooting which I cancel. What I see and have access to is great but the manipulations I have to go through to get there are taxing to say the least. I thought maybe the scanner or printer (both of which a driver cannot be found) were the culprit. I disconnected the USB cables for both and no change. Now I am lost for an answer.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
Vista x64 can be installed from the XP Pro x64 desktop.
"Tom Scales" wrote in message
"Jon" wrote in message I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86 DVD's in my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not a download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a dual boot system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade X64 XP and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old. The installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is restored and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install which I haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition with my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?
Intel D945PVS systemboard Intel Pentium D Dual Core ATI Radeon X1600 pro 2GB RAM 350 GB SATA drive
Thanks,
Jon
From what I have read, booting the X64 DVD is the only way to successfully install it. Back everything up!
Tom